Dawna started podcasting in 2008.  The Evolutionary Provocateur podcast (2008-2016) covered self-managed companies, leadership insights, companies that mimic life principles, purpose. That program featured Simon Sinek, Joseph Bragdon, Stelio Verzera, Steve Denning and many other wonderful contributors.
The Inspirational Insights podcast was launched in (2016-current) with Ervin Laszlo on consciousness.

Business Podcast Episodes Self-Management and Business Transformation Playlist

Bridging both my podcasts is a series on self-managed companies and ways of operating to create higher engagement, greater flexibility, and agility.  Listen to how companies are reinventing management to restore freedom, flexibility, and creativity to the workplace.

Roche Sweden’s Transformation Journey

It’s hard to find good examples of transforming workplaces done in a principled and human-centered way. Roche Sweden stands out. Transformation lead Christian Roche describes their experience. 

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Vissionairs Changing the World of Finance

Viisi, a Dutch mortgage advisory firm on a mission to change finance. Co-founder Tom van der Lubbe explains. 

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Tomatoes and Self-Management: Morning Star

The story of the world’s largest tomato processing company and their decision to be a self-managed company. A conversation with Doug Kirkpatrick of the MorningStar Self-Management Institute.

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Understanding the Practicality of Moving to Self-Management with Doug Kirkpatrick

Digging deeper into how self-management at MorningStar works, Dawna speaks to Doug Kirkpatrick about decision-making, financial management using a gamified approach, and why resistance to change doesn’t exist in a self-managed environment.

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The Road to Self-Management: Matt Black Systems

Aeronautics company Matt Black Systems found the traditional style of managing far too costly so through a series of experiments they went from traditional to their own brand of self-management – Fractalism. A conversation with Andrew Holm.

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Revolutionizing Health Care: The Buurtzorg Way

Dutch health care company Buurtzorg’s CEO, Jos de Blok, explains the evolution of Buurtzorg from vision to a simple, flat organizational structure and self-governing nurse teams to deliver better health outcomes, increase both patient and staff satisfaction and reduce costs. Starting out with just four nurses, Buurtzorg has grown to 9,700 nurses and 850 teams serving 70,000 patients a year by 2015 using a principle-based approach.

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Nearsoft Inc. with Matt Perez

Nearsoft modeled their culture off of pioneering self-organizing company Semco led by Ricardo Semler. Matt Perez takes us inside the company to share how freedom-centric companies run.

Creating Freedom to Contribute 

Menlo Innovations with Rich Sheridan CEO and author of Joy, Inc.


Tech company Menlo Innovations has a lofty mission. Liberate the world from bad code. The implications are enormous to you as a consumer or user. Learn how a tech company instills joy in the process of creating code that runs your experience in health care, consumer and other applications.

Self-Managing Governance Structures and Processes

It all begins by getting started. Start by researching what other companies have done to see what principles and values you’d like to apply to your own situation.

Self-Management Around the World with Pim de Morree of Corporate Rebels

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Redistributing Power – Sociocracy 3.0 with Michael Gothe of CRISP and James Priest of S3

Swedish tech company CRISP boldly goes where other companies hesitate so they’ve been working with Sociocracy 3.0 and James Priest for a number of years. S3 is a modular way of trying on self-managing processes for decision making and more. M. Gothe from CRISP and James Priest explain.

Episode hosted on Management-Issues.com

Getting to Grips with Agile with Jason Little and Jay Goldstein

Lean and Agile are software development methods that have an inherent mindset built-in. Put the customer first, stay open to adjustments, for instance. There is a collision between traditional command and control management and a more Agile (fit for flexibility) approach. In this conversation Jason Little, author of Lean Change Management and Jay Goldstein, co-lead of the Learning Consortium, explains what Agile is and why it rocks the world view of traditional thinkers.

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Can Flexible Companies Scale? with Steve Denning

When a software dev process like Agile becomes a mindset can the shift in thinking power a totally engaged workplace? Steve Denning describes what happens when the Learning Consortium asked these questions and then held site visits with early adopter companies like Microsoft, Riot Games, Magna, and Ericsson.

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Dipping Into LiquidO with Stelio Verzera

Italian innovation company (and my collaboration partners in business innovation) have designed an agile governance system they call LiquidO. Co-founder Stelio Verzera explains.

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Leading in a Boss-less Company with Michael Pacanowsky

W.L. Gore has had a boss-less business culture from the beginning. Michael Pacanowsky worked and consulted inside W.L. Gore & Associate for 29 years and has now returned to academia as the Gore-Giovale Chair in Business Management at the Bill and Vieve Gore School of Business at Westminster College. He explains how boss-less management works and describes what the Center for Business Innovation is doing to support change agility.

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Implementing Holacracy with Anna McGrath (consultant to Zappos)

Holacracy has been badly maligned by business opinion and media. While it may not fit everyone it is worth looking under the hood given the need for alternative forms of governance that can outlast the leader. Anna McGrath worked on the implementation with Zappos. Hear her thoughts.

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Operationalizing Holacracy with Tom Thomison of encode.org and Holacracy One


After implementing Holacracy in hundreds of companies world-wide Tom Thomison is now bringing the back-end administration up to meet the challenge.

An Open Architecture for Open Participatory Organizations with Bonnitta Roy

Bonnitta Roy has designed an open architecture framework to guide companies in setting up self-managed open participatory organizations.

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Vistaprint Learns from Menlo and Steve Denning updates us on the Learning Consortium


How Vistaprint took a site visit to Menlo and used it to rethink their business culture. Steve Denning updates us all on the latest Learning Consortium results.

Freedom at Work – Freedom Centric companies with WorldBlu CEO Traci Fenton


WorldBlu offers the platinum standard and scorecard for replacing fear with freedom, attracting high-level companies like Zappos, Simon Sinek’s Start with Why, Nearsoft (EP5) and Menlo Innovations (EP7).

Liberating Leaders with Isaac Getz, author of Freedom Inc.


Most organizations deny fundamental human needs seriously limiting performance and innovation. When employees have the freedom and ability to act in the best interests of the company, performance improves. Dr. Getz shares examples of phenomenal business results from companies whose leaders built total freedom-of-initiative organizations. These leaders understand that three universal human needs—intrinsic equality, the opportunity for growth, and self-direction—must be met for all employees. To nurture and sustain the freedom culture, these leaders share their vision of the company so that employees can “own” it.We talk about the role of the ego as an enabler or leadership liability, why the CEO does not hold the power, a day in the life of a liberated organization, and lessons learned from over 300 liberated companies worldwide. You will also learn about the transformational journey as leaders let go of the belief that they are the smartest person in the organization.

If you appreciate this content and would like to support it then please support production on Patreon.

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Inspirational Insights Podcast

Two CEOs working on tech solutions for better decision-making exchange learning Inspirational Insights Podcast – Insight To Action

Two CEOs, both serial entrepreneurs and global citizens, of two different companies, jump on this episode of the Inspirational Insights podcast, to share what they have learned developing tech solutions to improve decision-making. Meeting for the first time, Soushiant Zanganehpour referred to as Soush, from SWAE, and Kelly Max, from SOLVV, share their pivots, insights, and experience. Each is guided by a different focus but the same goal. How do we upgrade democracy? Soushiant from SWAE and Kelly from SOLVV share their respective experiences in mitigating bias, using data, inviting trust, and engaging users. Tune in for an entertaining discussion on how apps can support social advancement at the personal, company, and governance levels. At the 8-minute mark, Kelly refers to the DACH market which is shorthand for Germany (D), Austria (A), and Switzerland (CH).Kelly Max mentioned a SOLVV social podcast that offers perspectives on making democracy work. That link is here: https://solvv.com/solvv/how-to-start-a-revolution-to-make-democracy-work-for-the-21st-centuryAnd another Solvv introducing the SOLVV Social Podcasting: https://solvv.com/solvv/what-is-solvvTwo more links to SOLVVS Medium articles further explain the concept:A New Way To Podcasting: https://solvv.medium.com/a-new-way-to-podcast-introducing-solvvs-on-demand-social-podcasting-app-59e672e4c288What is Social Podcasting: https://solvv.medium.com/what-is-social-podcasting-71e130d568a6This episode is supported by the Business Agility Institute. Subscribe to Emergence magazine and use the discount code in the episode to get a 10% discount.Intro music by Mark Romero MusicSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/insight-to-action-inspirational-insights-podcast. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
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